Dr. Ted Klontz joins Dodge for a conversation around Motivational Interviewing, a methodology Ted shares that can help probe the roadblocks to personal change rooted in the sort paralyzing ambivalence to change that many of us deal with at some point in our lives.

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Our guest today is a welcome knock to the head. His name is Dave Richo and he’s a psychotherapist, educator, and writer in California. He’s with us today to talk about lessons outlined in his 2019 book, Five True Things: A Little Guide to Embracing Life’s Big Challenges. It’s one of those books that contains wisdom by the barrel and we’re deeply grateful that Dave agreed to join us on the show this week, letting us peel away at his five true things with direct guidance.

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Change is a given of life, perhaps even the point of it. And now more than ever, it’s everywhere we look. But how well do we understand it? Psychologist Dr. Dodge Rea and guests explore the mysterious, paradoxical nature of change navigated well.

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