Sunglasses, Skull Faces, and the Longest Fight Scene Ever
REBROADCAST
Welcome to this episode of The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast! Hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell are joined by returning guest Adam Marshall Rini to dissect John Carpenter’s 1988 cult classic They Live. What starts as a simple tale of a drifter looking for work quickly transforms into a mind-bending sci-fi commentary on consumerism, Reaganomics, and subliminal control—once Roddy Piper finds those magical sunglasses, of course. But is this film a masterpiece of political satire or just “Noam Chomsky for 14-year-olds”? The hosts debate whether They Live is best enjoyed with tacos and beer or if it’s essential viewing for understanding capitalism’s grip on society.
The conversation flows from the film’s jarring tonal shifts—peaceful drifter to trigger-happy action hero in minutes—to that infamous alley fight scene that seems to go on longer than the movie itself. Krissy experiences the film with fresh eyes and finds herself both fascinated and bewildered by its pacing, while Nathan and Adam appreciate it as a “beer and taco movie” that hits different emotional notes depending on your age when you first watch it. They explore Carpenter’s knack for making outsiders the heroes, the shocking violence of the police raid scenes, and why casting a professional wrestler was the perfect choice to reach a teenage audience. The panel also wrestles with the film’s abrupt ending and that peculiar final shot that seems designed purely to earn its R rating.
Additional Highlights:
- The group debates whether the sunglasses actually get you high or just tax your brain with information overload
- Discussion of how They Live influenced everything from Shepard Fairey’s “Obey” artwork to South Park episodes
- Analysis of why Keith David elevates every scene he’s in, even when he’s being forced to wear sunglasses against his will
- Examination of the film’s stark division between the haves and have-nots, with no middle class in sight
- The revelation that this screenplay follows textbook structure, hitting its major plot point at exactly the 30-minute mark
The hosts land on vastly different ratings: Nathan gives it 8 pairs of sunglasses as a fun genre piece, Adam awards it an honorary 14 for its cultural importance to young minds, and Krissy settles on 5—acknowledging its significance while admitting it’s just not for her. Their deep cut recommendations range from the video game Fallout: New Vegas to Noam Chomsky’s Understanding Power to Green Day’s “American Idiot,” proving this film’s influence extends far beyond cinema.
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Have you ever wondered what you’d do if you found sunglasses that revealed hidden messages everywhere? Would you immediately start a revolution or just try to convince your skeptical best friend?
