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Matthew
Hello, and welcome to this episode of the Star Wars Generations podcast. Friends, we’ve got a new Star Wars product coming up real soon: Star Wars Visions Presents the Ninth Jedi. I am here to talk about it with Erin. Alex wasn’t able to join us, but he sent in some thoughts that we’re going to talk about. Basically, we’re just helping to get you ready. This is a primer to give you everything you need to know for this new TV show when it comes out. It’s going to be eight episodes. Originally we thought it was going to be releasing week to week; instead it’s going to be releasing all at once. We’re going to do coverage on it.
We’re probably going to do coverage on the first episode the night it drops, then do something about the whole show a week later. But today we just want to talk about everything that’s going into it. So I’m joined, of course, by Erin. Erin, how are we doing today?
Erin
I’m doing pretty good. Chill morning. How about you?
Matthew
Good. I’m good.
And so this is about the Ninth Jedi. For those who don’t remember, or if you haven’t seen Star Wars Visions, I do highly recommend it. It’s basically an anthology show made up of a number of individual stories, all animated. Originally it was all done in the anime style, but I think now they’ve started branching out into a number of other cultures and animation styles. It’s basically a bunch of these different vignettes that don’t necessarily fall within our timeline, or at least not in ways that matter much. The Ninth Jedi especially is one that… I’ve read one description that says it’s set a thousand years in the future. That may be possible. I know someone else who’s described all of these shows as what kids in the Star Wars universe watch on Saturday morning cartoons. So these are fictional stories told within that universe.
It doesn’t really matter. What we know is that there was this episode of Visions, season one, called The Ninth Jedi. There was a sequel to that, The Ninth Jedi: Child of Hope, in the third season, and now we’re getting eight full-length episodes based on that story. Erin, how are we feeling about this?
Erin
I’m excited. I was pretty unsure about Visions going into it, just because I’m not a big fan of anime. That being said, not that I’ve given it a fair chance. I’m sure anime is wonderful. I just get intimidated by how many episodes are in most popular anime series.
Matthew
You don’t want to start watching One Piece and go back and watch 1,200 episodes of it. It’s a little intimidating, I’ve got to say.
Erin
But I loved that it was able to introduce me to the style of filming and animation, as well as how the stories play out. I’ve heard these stories from Visions described as kind of non-canon events. So, whether you want to translate that as cartoons and storybooks that kids read in the Star Wars universe, or just, I don’t know, kind of like Marvel’s What If.
Just fun concepts on the side that don’t play into the bigger story, but do have really interesting plot points and things that are brought up that wouldn’t work in the bigger Star Wars universe. Right.
Matthew
Yeah. I think framing it as What If is a really good way to think about it. And it’s certainly possible that in this larger show, they are going to ground it more. They might start by saying this takes place a thousand years after the Battle of Yavin, or a thousand years beforehand.
We don’t really know. But I think that framing, just thinking of this as a story in Star Wars instead of having to relate it to everything else, isn’t only good for this, it’s actually just a good way of thinking about Star Wars in general, because I do think a lot of times it’s hard to watch new things because we’re constantly thinking, okay, where does this fit in?
And if this is happening during this period, what is this character doing, and stuff like that? I think that was probably part of why I didn’t love Visions as much the first time I watched it. Part of it is that I’m just not really an anime person. I don’t experience things visually the way a lot of people do, so the visual storytelling motif is harder for me to get into. But I remember the first chapter, I believe, The Duel, might have been the last one, or one of them, and visually it is just so striking. It’s primarily black and white, very much calling back to samurai movies of the ’50s, which are often black and white, but the lightsaber effects and the other laser effects are in color.
Wonderfully done. It was a battle of a Sith against other Sith, and I spent the whole time I was watching it thinking, wait, is this before Darth Bane?
Is this after Darth Bane? I was trying to figure it out, and I didn’t really enjoy it. I think being able to let go of that… by the time I went back to watch The Ninth Jedi, because I knew this was coming up, I could just enjoy the episodes. Being able to think, I don’t know how this relates to the Skywalkers, and I don’t care. It’s just the kind of story where the Jedi and the Sith are still these timeless things, and the Force is a timeless thing, and lightsabers are a timeless thing, and we’re going to tell a fun story, and that’s okay.
Erin
I like that we’re getting some things that are outside of the established canon, but I know that’s really hard for a lot of fans. For me, one thing that helps a lot with certain media, like the Han Solo movie, for example: it doesn’t play out as the best prequel to Han Solo, but it is a great space cowboy, bandit, heist movie. It’s a great movie, it’s fun to watch, the characters are pretty compelling. It just doesn’t fit in well as a prequel to Han Solo. Similarly, I most recently watched Jurassic World Rebirth, and some of the concepts there kind of backtrack what happened in the Jurassic World trilogy, and it’s like, okay, that’s frustrating, but it’s a really good movie outside of it. The movie got a lot of hate for what it did to the overall story.
Yeah, and I feel like that’s what some people struggled with with Visions at first. I hope that just the discussion we’re having right now, about looking at it outside of the normal canon, outside of what we would expect, not killing yourself over where does this fit in, how does this relate, gives you the opportunity to just enjoy a new piece of media in a setting that you love without having to tie it back to everything.
So I hope that people can step back and enjoy it as a new thing without getting caught in the weeds of how does this tie in, does this ruin this thing, and so on.
Matthew
I mean, that’s always been a part of storytelling. With adaptations, I get it. Here’s an example where I think there’s more reason to be upset, but it’s the same kind of thinking. There’s a movie from my childhood, I think it’s called First Knight, starring Sean Connery and Richard Gere, and Julia Ormond. It’s basically about a knight who comes to work for a king and falls in love with the queen, the king’s wife, and the love triangle and how that plays out, and all the problems with it. If you think about it as that kind of story, I think it’s a fantastic movie.
Now, the king is named Arthur, the knight is named Lancelot, and the woman is named Guinevere. And if you know anything about Arthurian legend, this movie will make you very angry, because the movie doesn’t know anything about Arthurian legend. The same way, I thought Mad Max: Fury Road is an awful sequel to the Mad Max movies, which I love. They were great movies. Fury Road doesn’t make sense in light of those movies, but it’s also just a badass movie that’s awesome on its own. I think The Ninth Jedi, to me, isn’t those things, because I don’t think it’s claiming to be. As you said, Visions has always sort of been in this What If kind of space. But with all that, for those who haven’t seen it, and I hope you do hit pause and go watch it, but even if you haven’t, or don’t have time to rewatch it and just want a reminder, tell us about The Ninth Jedi. What is the story of this character?
Erin
So this is a series where the Jedi have been lost, and the art of lightsaber making has been lost as well. I believe kyber crystals are no longer really a thing, well, the kyber crystals that this lightsaber maker uses. Kara is our main character, and her father, sorry, he’s a lightsaber maker, not a Jedi, but her father is the lightsaber maker, and he uses synthetic kyber crystals that will adjust to the Force users’ powers and preferences.
Which I love, to see unique abilities within a lightsaber. I hope we get some stuff similar to The Acolyte, where maybe we see Kara use it as like a saber whip, or some other type of thing, which I think is just the coolest. In the first episode, Kara’s father is attacked by Jedi Hunters. He gives her the lightsabers and tells her to go, that these Jedi have been summoned to the mountains, and to go meet them and give them their sabers. So she has this adventure up the mountain and meets up with these Jedi, who are trying to meet up with someone at a conclave, I think they called it, someone who called them all together.
Matthew
Margrave, thank you.
Erin
And then we find out many of the Jedi are actually Sith who have tracked down the Jedi that were called, killed them, and taken their place. So when Kara gives out the lightsabers, most of them ignite red.
Matthew
And that’s part of the idea, that as you said, the lightsaber crystals will adjust to the energy of the Force, the way the Force moves with a person. There are two great storytelling beats with that. One is that for Kara, when she first uses it, it’s this pale, very translucent, almost like a green outline around something. But as the story goes on, and as her confidence in her Force powers grows, it becomes more and more of a full-on green lightsaber, which it is by the time of the final battle.
And then the other, I hope I’m not spoiling this, so pause and go watch it if you want to be surprised, but for everyone else, it’s just this great moment when all the Jedi, all these people claiming they want to be Jedi. One of the conceits is that they can’t be Jedi in part because they don’t have lightsabers, and I think that’s something we’re going to really explore, how needed that is. But they all ignite the lightsabers, and five of them turn red. It’s just an incredible moment of realizing, oh no, these are actually baddies. It’s just such a great reveal, and I imagine we’re going to keep seeing that.
There’s someone who’s kind of in the middle, who’s purple, and I thought that was another fun thing. I think this is going to have so much to explore, how these lightsabers can be a plot device, both to tell us the audience, but also to tell other characters. It’s basically the best mood ring you’ve ever seen.
Erin
Yeah, really, that’s a fun way to put it, truly. One thing I thought was interesting, and I’m interested to see if it plays forward throughout the show, is how they seem to be connected to the ones around them, because one of the people whose saber initially lit red, like you said, hued to purple, and then at the end of the battle, they say, I’m so sorry, I’m actually a Jedi, I was caught up in the darkness of the others.
Right. So I’m curious to see what the Force looks like in groups of people in this universe. You wouldn’t expect someone to make a transition that quickly between falling toward the dark and teetering back to the light. I’m interested, since sabers are different, kyber crystals are different, whether the way the Force moves in groups is going to be different, or if we’ll see more Sith turn to Jedi, or another Jedi fall to the dark, just based on who’s around them. I thought that was kind of interesting.
Matthew
And let me read the opening crawl from the first episode, because we love opening crawls, it’s part of Star Wars, but it really helps set the idea of what this universe is, and just how much darkness there is. It says: “Many generations have passed since the light of the Jedi protected the galaxy. Since then, an era of war has arisen.”
So this is why a lot of people think of this as being far in the future. Margrave Juro, ruler of the planet Hy Izlan, has a plan. He has recently begun mining for rare kyber crystals within his territory. Using these crystals, which he synthesizes in some way, he seeks to restore the Jedi by reforging their ancient weapons, lightsabers, which have been lost to the galaxy. So again, it’s kind of this idea that the lightsabers will be part of what allows the Jedi to reform. However, ancient dark forces conspire to subjugate the galaxy. They hatch their own sinister plan to hunt all suspected Jedi and bring forth a new era of Sith rule.
So, yeah, this is a lawless time, much more so than even in Han’s day. This is a real time of darkness, of constant warfare, where no one trusts each other, everyone is deeply distrustful. That’s part of why this happens: the Margrave is really trying to rebuild the Jedi, and he was the one working with Kara’s father, the lightsaber smith. He puts together this gathering of would-be Jedi, and he doesn’t trust some of them. So he creates the situation knowing that the lightsabers will tell him who’s Sith and who’s not, and you can see that’s probably why, for the person who somewhat falls but is able to pull back, that’s part of it.
This is a time of just so much deep suspicion and paranoia, no one trusting each other, and it’s hard for the good and the light to survive in a world like that.
Erin
I didn’t quite connect the idea of galactic distrust to what Juro did, but you’re completely right. He suspected that not everyone who came to this meeting would be pure of heart, or even the people who were initially called. So he set up a trap: he hid inside a droid and basically said, okay, everyone turn on your lightsabers, let’s see.
Matthew
Without telling them what it was about. Yeah, so it’s kind of a brilliant reveal in that regard. So tell us about this character of Kara.
Erin
Well, she’s a young girl, I’d assume somewhere between 10 and 13. I’m not great with children’s ages, but that seems about right for her.
Matthew
That kind of standard anime, on the edge of puberty but still prepubescent, child hero.
Erin
Yeah, exactly. I feel like I didn’t get too much about her in the first episode, other than, of course, important lore backstory about what’s going on with her dad. We see her build her confidence, that’s all lovely. But I thought the follow-up episode in season three, Child of Hope, we get to see more of her character.
Where she finds herself on this ship, and there’s a small droid who needs her help. She puts her own problems aside to help him out, and finds out that whatever help he needed, it’s a hundred years too late. In the end, the droid makes a sacrifice to save her and distract a bunch of Jedi Hunters, and it’s just all very sweet. That episode made me cry.
Matthew
Yeah, I was watching that episode last night with my boyfriend, I’ve been introducing him to Star Wars, he didn’t really grow up with it. At one point, as we were watching, we’re in different homes but watching online together, he texts me: is Star Wars allowed to have happy endings? We agreed there’s a lot of bittersweetness, a lot of someone making a sacrifice, and this felt like a really important episode for Kara, her full name is Lah Kara, but everyone calls her Kara.
She clearly is the sort of person who can see the good in everyone. I think, especially since this is a galaxy where for a lot of people the question is: are droids sentient beings worthy of the same rights and respect as all sentient life, or are they machines owned by people, or are they somewhere in the middle? That’s a question a lot of characters have wrestled with, and a lot of characters we kind of wish would wrestle with but didn’t, especially in Clone Wars and stuff like that. I think it’s very significant that first, she has a droid of her own called Four-Nines, 99-99, who is… it’s funny how many different genres this is pulling in, because on the one hand, there’s nothing more anime than a young child who discovers they have powers and has to join the fight.
Of course, if you see anything where a young kid finds out they’re the only one who can pilot the mecha, like Kara and her lightsaber, it’s very much the same thing. But also, and this is something a lot of Star Wars has done, and probably a lot of animation too, I think this trend starts with Disney movies, where every princess has a cute little animal that only she can talk to. That’s exactly what the droids are for Kara, in ways that I love. So let’s finish up quickly on this first episode and jump into the third, because you’re right, we get a lot more of her there. A lot of that episode is just beautiful animation, there’s a big lightsaber fight, some space adventures, but really where it ends is that we’re going to have this group of Jedi on the run, with Kara being the main one, the Margrave being another, and then a couple others who round out the story, who I don’t think we’ve had well developed yet, but I think are really going to be developed in this show. That’s the kind of setup, and they’re going to go off and have adventures.
Erin
Yeah, and the concept was, correct me if I’m wrong, the Margrave, is that it?
Matthew
The Margrave, it’s a title, similar to the English “marquis.”
Erin
Okay, so correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the Margrave is a Jedi, and he summoned seven other Jedi, so there were eight of them total, and then they invite Kara to be the ninth Jedi, hence the name of the episode and the name of the upcoming series.
Matthew
Whether they’re really Jedi, whether the Jedi even still exist, is part of the question, but yeah, potential Jedi, to be sure. So, all right, what happens in the third episode, in this episode in season three?
Erin
Okay, so I believe Kara is being hunted by the Jedi Hunters, and she’s with her Jedi friends. I don’t remember exactly how it happens, but she ends up outside the ship.
Matthew
Yeah, so one thing is that one of the main characters we’ve established as a main antagonist, one of the leaders of the Sith, is a guy named Anda. He’s following the Jedi ship. They fire a laser blast that pierces the hull and blows Kara out into space, but she’s in this kind of bubble situation, so she’s protected. She drifts far off and they have trouble finding her. She gets rescued in the asteroid field by Teto, a diminutive space droid with large eyes.
The cuteness factor is through the roof. He looks like he has a similar design to, if you’ve played the Jedi Survivor games, Cal Kestis’ main droid. Not the same by any means, but probably the same production facility or something, or the same model a thousand years later.
Or however many years later it is. He pulls her aboard this abandoned spaceship. Eventually she flees, because she’s mostly seen droids as… well, that’s not true, she doesn’t know what’s going on, so she flees.
Teto tells her not to worry, and convinces her it’s safe, and that he needs her help, because here’s where the droids are the most loyal puppies you’ll ever find. If you’ve played Baldur’s Gate, spoilers, skip ahead if you haven’t, because this is such an important scene, there’s a point where you come across a dog asking you to help its master, if you can speak with animals, and you find out the master is dead. That’s exactly what’s happened here: Teto can’t reach his master, and he’s asking Kara for help reaching him. Kara is able to help, and realizes the master has been dead for a hundred years. Again, it’s kind of a reminder of the loyalty of droids, but also of how they don’t age, how they’re timeless in that regard.
It’s just this heartbreaking moment. The first time I watched it, I kept waiting for the plot. Eventually the Sith do show up, and there are some fight scenes, but that feels like such a small part of the episode. Most of the episode is just this character beat for Kara, seeing her work with this droid and be compassionate to him, even when she realizes the guy’s dead, she doesn’t laugh at him.
She’s not like, “It’s been a hundred years, are you crazy?” She has sympathy and compassion, and helps him come to terms with it. So when they’re attacked at the end, Teto steps up to be the one to sacrifice himself to save her, and it’s very sad. But it feels to me like that’s almost secondary to the main episode, most of the episode is just Teto and Kara, and the only real antagonist is time and grief.
Erin
Yeah, it was quite beautiful. We get a moment of Kara doubting herself, when they do find the master, she’s like, oh my god, I still couldn’t even help you, it’s too late. I don’t remember her exact words, but the concept of, oh, I’ll never be a Jedi, I’ll never be successful, and so on. And Teto says, no, he’s gone, but I asked to see my master again, and he’s right there, I can see it.
So basically the people on this ship were in a long-term suspended state, kind of like in Avatar, how they go to sleep for years to travel to Pandora. Except the technology had failed and the master had died. He was supposed to be suspended, and Teto was supposed to go wake him up, but something had happened, I think there was a breakage in the ship, and he couldn’t physically reach him.
Matthew
No, his ghost doesn’t appear, it’s because he gets to see his body, yeah.
And it’s this really touching story. I think one thing Star Wars does really well sometimes is have characters who are naive ask the questions that seem ridiculous, since you realize we’re all ridiculous for not knowing it. At one point Teto asks, why is there war? You can see Kara at first struggling, because all she’s ever known is war, and part of her has trouble. She gives this answer about how there’s all this fear and hate in the galaxy, and that she, as a Jedi, is going to try to deal with that. But it’s just this beautiful moment reminding us that he’s asking why the world is this way, in a way she’s never even thought about, because it’s all she’s ever known.
Yeah, exactly, like you kind of wonder how long it’s been since the Jedi were here, or whatnot, especially since Teto’s master was also a Jedi. And you’re right, it’s Teto who sees the body and gets to see him that way.
We do see the kind of Force ghost of the master floating above them as they eat a meal together later, but I don’t think either of them notices that.
Erin
Oh, yeah, I don’t think I got that either, actually.
Matthew
Yeah, it’s kind of a really nice moment there. So the only other thing I want to mention, and you brought it up, but I want to go a little deeper, is this thing about her confidence, because one of the main things that happens in that first episode is that her father is kidnapped and she can’t stop it. She reveals to Teto that that’s one of the reasons she’s carrying all this self-doubt, because she failed. Teto has this really beautiful response, where he basically says it takes a very strong being to be able to admit their weakness. I know that sounds kind of like a cliche now that I’m saying it, but I think there’s a lot of truth to it. In some ways it echoes Yoda’s line from The Last Jedi, that the greatest teacher is failure, you don’t become a great Jedi because you never do anything wrong, you become a great Jedi because you do do wrong things, and you don’t try to cover it up or use bravado, you acknowledge it, accept it, and try to learn from it. You learn and grow.
So we don’t really know much about what the show is going to be, and I’m kind of happy about that. We know it’s being written and directed by the same person who did the first episode, Kenji Kamiyama. And one thing we haven’t mentioned, did you watch the episode in English?
Erin
Yes.
Matthew
So one of the really cool things, and it’s happening more and more now with things that are collaborations between an anime studio and a Western studio, they got a full cast to record both in English and in Japanese. In some cases they had an actor who could do both languages and recorded both; in others they got different actors. You know, the days of a really good Japanese-language cast and then a very cheap, very bad English-language dub translation, we’ve really moved past that in some cases, not all. I think if you’re able to watch it in Japanese with English subtitles, that’s fantastic, and I’d love to hear from people who do that, because I imagine they get a very different perspective than I do. I will say, unfortunately, my ADHD right now is at a point where I can’t keep my eyes on the screen focused enough to catch every word in subtitles. It’s just not where my brain is right now, which is also part of why sometimes when the storytelling is visual, I’ll miss parts of it. But I do love that they very consciously tried to have both of those as legitimate options for us, not doing it just in English, not just in Japanese, but giving both sides a real chance.
Erin
Yeah, I think that’s really cool. That’s important with something like this, because I think it would feel like a loss, or feel wrong, if it was only in English, given that anime is such a part of Japanese culture and always has been, it deserves the respect of being presented in its original language. But I also appreciate that they have the budget to include English-speaking actors who are actually, like you said, not just low-budget, phoning in the lines, but actually putting effort into the roles. Because let me tell you, I watched Squid Game with the English dub, and I understood so little of the emotional beats. The facial expressions and tone of voice weren’t matching. I didn’t catch that once throughout any of Visions.
Matthew
I think live-action dubbing especially is harder, because most of the time with animation you’re not actually making the lips move to the exact words, so it doesn’t have that uncanny valley effect. But also, yeah, sometimes they just don’t put the money in, and especially with something like Squid Game, where the acting is so much. So yeah, I’m going to be really curious. Fans, if you’re excited about it, or if you’re not, either way, let us know what you think. Let us know what language you’re going to watch it in.
We mentioned those two, I know a lot of other Disney Star Wars content will probably have subtitles for many, many languages. If you don’t speak English too well, I’m doubting you listen to this podcast, but maybe. I mean, I just said you don’t speak English too well, so clearly I don’t speak it very well either.
But it’s my first language, so I don’t have the excuse. So let us know what you think. You can find us, and all the contact information, in the show notes, Matthew at TheEthicalPanda.com. I’m giving some of this wrap-up, but don’t worry, Erin, I know you have some last things you want to say.
I’m just kind of giving it up to this, so people know there’s more Erin, you’ve got to stay and listen to this. Or, remind people that my co-host on Superhero Ethics has written a book: Zen Madman Presents, Friday Night Is My Monday Morning, Volume One.
You can buy that; you can buy some of the books that Pete Wright has written. All that information is in the show notes, all the information about my other podcasts is in the show notes, all the information about Lady Tano Creates, the awesome cosplay by Nurse Erin, coming soon to a mental facility near you. Everyone should go get their mental health checked, it’s always good. But if you ever feel like you need some extra care, well, Erin might be your nurse.
So, good reason, might just… might. You never know. So, with all that, now that I’ve completely maligned all things about the medical profession, Erin, what else do you want to say?
Erin
I just wanted to throw in Alex’s comments, because he wasn’t able to join us today, but we did ask him to send us some hopes, thoughts, and opinions.
Matthew
I’m so glad you did, and I apologize to Alex, because I literally bullied this kid into doing this. I asked him to do this a couple of times, he hadn’t. I was like, Alex, please, please, please do this. He finally did, and I was about to end the recording having totally forgotten. So I’m an idiot. Alex, go ahead, Erin, speak Alex’s words through Erin’s voice. Okay.
Erin
Alex’s thoughts: “When Visions first came out, The Ninth Jedi was one of my favorite stories, and I’m really excited that they’re expanding it. I remember they announced this at Star Wars Celebration last year, and we got a sneak peek at some of the character designs that looked really exciting. I think the premise most closely resembles what could happen in a canonical timeline, and I love the idea of an old lightsaber builder, probably the last of a lost art, being captured, and the mission to find him and bring him home.
It feels like a classic hero’s journey, with opportunities for some juicy twists. I do think that one former Jedi who turned Sith, who they spared in the original show, may betray them at some point, but that’s just a guess. I feel like there’s often a traitor arc in anime at some point, as a major anime lover, it’s a big trope. Anyways, love that anime and Star Wars continue to explore stories together.”
So yeah, it’s kind of a big L for the anime community that Alex wasn’t able to be here today, because he would have been our strongest advocate among the three of us. But just know he loves it deeply. He’s excited for this show, and so are we, but in different ways.
Matthew
Yes, very much. I think that’s one of the great things, getting to hear about it from all sorts of different perspectives like that. Unfortunately, Alex won’t be able to join us for the first episode we do, but we’re absolutely going to schedule the second one around his schedule. It might just be me and Alex, might just be Erin and Alex, that idea terrifies me, but I’ll give the kids the keys to the car and see what happens. You know, not a scratch, right?
You said not a scratch, don’t knock off the upper antenna of my podcast. But yes, I think it’s going to be really exciting to have Alex’s perspective. It’s funny what he said about the excitement of having the lightsaber maker, the saber maker, because I feel like rescuing the father is going to be the main plot, probably what happens in our final episode, but I’ll be even more excited for season two, because I hope we get a lot of him, in part because remember what I, oh, okay.
Here’s my prediction: because we started with this idea of a droid who is timeless, who lived for a hundred years remembering the old days of his master, what if we find, the David Tennant-voiced droid who made lightsabers, or at least helped all the kids make their own lightsabers, who we talked about in the Young Jedi arc, which actually hasn’t come out yet? But if you’ve seen the Young Jedi arc, if you’ve seen Ahsoka, you’ve heard us talk about him. What if at some point we find him? Because he could still be around a thousand years later.
Erin
That would be so cool. That would be peak, and that would definitively link it to canon, I’d assume.
Matthew
Yeah. I don’t want to get too excited about that, I’ve seen situations where people develop headcanon theories and get disappointed when they don’t come true. So I’m not going to pin my hopes on it, but if it happens, I’ll be pretty damn proud and say, hey, I called that. Thank you.
If anyone sees David Tennant in a credit that you don’t understand why he showed up, let us know. All right, any other last things, quotes, comments you want to make?
Erin
No, I just have my closing quote.
Matthew
All right. Well, in that case, thank you all so much for listening. Please write in, please let us know what you think. Tell people to get ready for our episode, so when they watch The Ninth Jedi and want to hear some great discussion about it, they can come on over to the Star Wars Generations podcast. With that, live long and prosper. Help us restore peace to the galaxy and take your place as the ninth Jedi. We establish the Jedi Order. So say we all. So say we all.
