
Kyle says if you’ve ever been in an argument, said something stupid, and then thought of the perfect comeback the next morning in the shower — congratulations, you’re a writer. This whole episode is about that: the gap between what’s real and what’s true, and how creative work lives in the space between.

Kyle says if you’ve ever been in an argument, said something stupid, and then thought of the perfect comeback the next morning in the shower — congratulations, you’re a writer. This whole episode is about that: the gap between what’s real and what’s true, and how creative work lives in the space between.

What happens when the thing you made becomes a place people gather—quoting your lines back to you, building wikis, making dioramas, and expecting you to be both artist and camp counselor? This week on Craft and Chaos, the crew talks fandom, creative boundaries, writing soundtracks, and the dangerous magic of asking, “Tell me you’re a fan without telling me you’re a fan.”

The writers of Star Trek: The Next Generation would literally write ‘tech the tech’ in the script when they didn’t have the technobabble figured out yet. These are professionals. Who got paid. And then they just… moved on. This is permission. Take it.

A listener asked who makes Craft and Chaos’s delightfully unhinged “ads,” and Pete and Kyle finally answer—without breaking the spell entirely. It’s a behind-the-scenes chat about surprise, structure, and the craft of making interruptions feel like part of the show’s DNA.