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Matthew Hello and welcome to this episode of Star Wars Generations podcast. We have just watched The Mandalorian & Grogu movie, and by that I mean we were in the theater two hours ago.
Yeah. We got out of the theater, we went and had some drinks, we talked about it with some awesome fans who drove down to Minneapolis to see it with us. If you’re a fan and you’re anywhere in the Minneapolis area and you ever want to watch Star Wars with us, let us know. But here we are. It is 12:30 and so my brain’s a little scrambled. Erin’s had like five drinks and so her brain’s a little scrambled. Stop.
She’s had like two and a half. It’s not a big deal. Yeah, whatever.
She found out I was paying and kept ordering more. But anyway. The point being, here we are. The Mando and Grogu movie is here. We watched it. If you’ve not watched it yet, of course, all the spoilers are coming. So go check it out if you want to watch it first.
Erin Watch it. It’s great. It’s a fun adventure and Matthew has other opinions, but I think it’s a wonderful adventure.
Matthew I’ll say I had some fun. There were definitely some moments I really enjoyed. But Erin, you go first. What’d you love about the movie?
Erin I thought it was so fun. So much of it was like Clone Wars nostalgia for me. Every scene involving Embo — they did so good. Embo is one of my favorite niche bounty hunters from the Clone Wars, and he was so menacing in this. They kept the mystique. I’m glad they didn’t have him speak any Basic because he never has before.
I loved how his wolf — his dog — was so much a part of it, because to me they are inseparable in my mind. I have not Googled what the dog’s name is, but I will by the next time we record. But yeah, I loved it. I thought there was just a lot of fun Easter eggs throughout the film referencing back to previous Star Wars, but also just previous media in general that had similar mob adventure vibes. So I thought it was a lot of fun. It’s certainly not like, oh my God, Star Wars is back with an earth-shattering, canon-changing moment — it wasn’t anything crazy, but it was really fun for me.
Matthew Yeah, I think that is all perfectly valid. And I think what a lot of people wondered is, is this just going to be three episodes strung together and put onto a big screen? And I think the answer to that is 100% yes, that is exactly what this was. I even joked about it with my wife, who went. She was like, well, I didn’t really like the first movie, but I loved the second movie. And I thought the third movie was okay — because it really was three distinct parts. And there was a point — I guess this is like between the first and second movies, but I would have called it closer to a halfway point — where all of the plot had been resolved. And there’s another hour and a half of movie left. I had no idea what was going to happen because there was no clue about what the overall plot was going to be for the rest of the movie.
Erin Wait, what moment are you talking about?
Matthew After they have gotten Admiral Cback to the rebels and Rotta’s back with them.
Erin And that’s the rebels — the New Republic. Yeah, Rotta’s back with them. Everything’s been taken care of. There are no loose strings and Mando and Grogu just go off to chill for a bit. And I thought then we were going to get a movie about what the New Republic was going to do with Admiral Coyne and get a lot more New Republic.
Instead we just got the Hutts wanting revenge. And I think that’s where I’m landing on this overall movie. For me, if this was three episodes of the show — awesome. Not my three favorite episodes by any means, but a lot of cute moments with Grogu, a lot of fun moments. There’s no real character development of either Mando or Grogu, but you don’t have to grow in every episode. But as a movie, I think it was lacking — for me, if it’s a Star Wars movie I want something more.
Erin I understand where you’re coming from for sure. And I agree there weren’t necessarily huge beats for these characters emotionally. But I do think there was definitely some growth that happened, especially with Grogu, because he is so dependent throughout the entire series. He can help here and there, but for the most part he’s dependent. And he still is throughout this movie for the most part. But we see him make a very conscious choice to go against what his quote-unquote father is asking him to do, which is to leave with the — what is it — Anzellans.
Anzellans, thank you — to leave with them. And Grogu chooses to stay behind and care for Mando instead, when Mando thinks — slash knows — he’s going to die. And I thought that was nice to see Grogu on his own and see what he would do, seeing that there’s this loyalty in him. Because he is still a toddler. We’re still talking about a toddler. I just answered a nursing question today in my practice for my board exam that was talking about when humans develop the ability to trust. And it’s during the toddler years, before you turn six. So very much, applying some human psychology to Grogu’s species, this is so formative for him — yeah, he really showed up with a half-baked plan, like a toddler plan. He’s like, look, dad, I got here. I got you out. And dad’s like, hey, I don’t fit in the ship because it’s made for people who are one foot tall.
Matthew You got a little red wagon to drag me home. That’s not going to work.
Erin Yeah, like, thanks, but no — this isn’t going to work. And I love seeing Grogu have this little Zen moment. There was a Visions episode that we watched — I know that was kind of in parts, and there were some parts that you guys didn’t jive with that I really jived with. And I feel like that might be what’s happening here as well, with the more quiet, subtle storytelling beats. Maybe I really enjoyed that. And like your wife said, I think she said her favorite was the second episode — the period when Grogu is kind of caring for Mando. So I’d love to see these characters again. I think it’d be best to go back to the short show format if they’re willing to, because I think there’s a lot more you can do with these characters.
I think it’d be really cool to see them in the future, because we know we’re getting more in this time period, especially with the Ahsoka show. And we know that Mando is even more now tied to the New Republic. Like, is it too much to hope for a New Republic era Avengers Star Wars movie? Like, is it too much to want Boba Fett and Fennec Shand and Mando and Grogu and Ahsoka and Ezra and Zeb and everybody? I don’t know. Maybe the cartoon-loving child in me is asking for too much, but I love it. Even though it was lighthearted, it wasn’t very deep.
Matthew I mean, you’re not the only one. We actually had a comment — so glad others are up this time of night watching with us. SF Maldwin wrote in and said that they thought it was entertaining, but they were hoping for Fennec or Boba Fett to show up. Absolutely. I definitely get that about wanting to see more of that part of the world, more of those characters show up.
I think that would have been really fun. And going back to the character development thing, I think actually you’re right. That was some good development for Grogu — I like that. I did think it was very well done. The whole bit of him building the shelter and making it work, and then they ran into this hillbilly alien where I was like, really? Like, why doesn’t this man have a banjo? Grogu was stealing fish from him, and I didn’t love that part. But the whole idea — and then a little bit of humor with Grogu trying to get Mando into the shelter while he’s banging his head. Like, that was hilarious.
I love that. I think part of the thing with the character development is — yes, Grogu had some growth. But it felt like Mando went backwards. Because when he starts out, he’s very much the: I’m not judging you, I’m not judging whether or not you should have a bounty on your head, but you do and I’m going to take you in warm or cold. And Grogu is the one who starts to change that for him — he has a bounty on Grogu, but he won’t turn him over. When he does, he goes back and rescues him. By the end of the last season, you really feel like Mando was changing in that regard. And so to now have this thing where he’s asked to go rescue this kid — and I mean, he’s like 19. I have no idea what age Hutts mature at, but it feels like he’s a young adult.
Erin That’s the impression I got as well. Yeah.
Matthew Like he can vote and pay taxes, but he’s in his early 20s or something. But we find out he doesn’t want to be rescued. He doesn’t want to go back. He actually doesn’t like his aunt and uncle and they may have some really nefarious reasons for wanting him brought back to them. And Mando’s like, sorry, man, you’re the bounty, I’ve got to take you in. That made no sense to me. And I was expecting him to have some moment of like, no, you’re right — I should let you do your own thing. And he kind of gets there. But what actually happens is that Rotta says, well, wait, actually you don’t need the Hutts — I can help you achieve your goal. And Mando’s like, okay, we can do that. But that’s still about the goal of the New Republic, who he’s working for. It’s not about, hey, I shouldn’t actually be taking you prisoner. And that just felt really backwards for Mando’s development to me.
Erin I definitely see where you’re coming from. Kind of my way to read that and make it make sense for my brain would be: Mando has very much changed. He’s not just about warm or cold. He’s not just about bounties anymore. Grogu changed so much for him. But it also changed the fact that now, working for the New Republic, doing things to better that cause is what feels right to him. He’s really dragging his feet to work for the Hutts. He does not want to work for the Hutts. And when Rotta — or Rotta, I already forgot how they pronounced it in the movie — when Jabba’s son says, oh, well, you work for the Hutts, Mando’s like, oh, f*** you, no I don’t. I work for the New Republic, actually, and they asked me to come here. So I feel like he’s just having this moment of being forced to do something he feels like he’s grown past. And so he maybe gets stuck in it for a second. But I do agree that by the time we hit Rotta’s second “I’m not my dad, I’m different, I don’t want to rule the world” — I was like, I can’t believe this is happening in a motion picture. I’m geeked. This Hutt is for the second time talking about how he’s more than just his mob father. And that was cheesy to me to an extent.
Matthew Having a ten-foot-long slug — as you put it, with 19 abs or more — repeatedly say “I want to be my own man.” Come on, writers. I want to be my own person, my own sentient being.
Erin I want to make my own legacy — anything but “I want to be my own man.”
Matthew I am not a man. I’m a non-binary person — but I understand that many people will look at me and think “man.” Rotta’s a ten-foot-long slug. He doesn’t have legs. He sort of has arms and they hold axes and they’re good. But when he fights his uncle, they roll around on top of each other because they’re both slugs. One of them is a man — and I don’t mean that in any emasculating way. They might be the most masculine of their species. I don’t know about gender roles among the Hutts. To me, a man is the male version of a human and he ain’t no human.
I was going to say: I love Jeremy Allen White. I thought he did a perfectly good job voice acting a character that sounded nothing like the character we got on screen.
Erin Like, it just sounded nothing like it fit the body we got on screen. Yeah.
Matthew What do you mean? Like, I already talked last week about how having Hutts speak in Basic or in English didn’t really work for me. He just sounded like Jeremy Allen White with some voice modulation. He sounded like — I’m having a hard time at the restaurant, guys. It was just — I wasn’t ready for an emo Hutt.
Erin It’s not a phase, dad. I want to be a fighter. I can make my own way. I got sponsorships now.
Matthew Oh, now I’m picturing Rotta smoking a doobie and that’s just — it’s too far gone.
Erin He had personal droids just to massage his muscles.
Matthew I mean, you’re a fighter. I had someone to help massage me after rugby games.
I also though — if we can take a second to look at Rotta as a slightly more serious character — there’s a lot to be said for being born into something and told you’re supposed to be something, and immediately falling into the manipulation of someone who is just exploiting you and thinking that’s your power, that’s what makes you who you are. And then seeing — oh, no, he was actually going to kill me on my last day of my contract. There was no getting out for me. And I really thought I had these fans, and these fans are now chanting “kill him, kill him, kill him.” I feel like they could have taken that character somewhere more serious. There could have been more important beats, because that is a very interesting concept.
It’s almost similar to Anakin — being raised a certain way and told this is your destiny, and having someone tell you, hey, these people are mistreating you, how about you do my thing? It’s such a real concept in the world of grooming and manipulating young adults, especially people who are quote-unquote nepo babies who have something to offer. But I think it’s really hard to make a ten- to twelve-foot slug serious as a character.
Matthew I mean, I think you’re right. Especially when it is already a story about a father and a son — in an adopted way — which is the relationship between Mando and Grogu. I like the Hutts. I think they work as a fun underworld element. But I think they kind of work better off screen. Imagine if Rotta was a Pyke, you know — if he was the son of one of the Pyke leaders, or someone from one of the other criminal organizations. Like, maybe he was a twilight dancer for the Hutts or something. You still want to keep the Hutt thing, and maybe then he could be a she and we would have — I said at one point, that would increase the number of women who speak in this movie by 100%. I was wrong, because the female twin is female. So you have two named women who speak in this movie, although the name of the female twin is never mentioned in the movie — it should be mentioned in other properties. They never come in the same room with each other, so the Bechdel test goes out the window. But yeah, the lack of women characters in this was pretty stark. I don’t think that character had to be a woman. But I think what you just named is a really great story beat and it was there — having it be a Hutt wanted to distract from that a bit.
Erin I think it’s really hard. And like you said, the Hutts are maybe better off screen — better as a menacing presence where, oh, all these bounty hunters work for the Hutts, all this is under the control of the Hutts, but you don’t see the Hutt very often. That carries a lot more menace and weight to it. And honestly, part of me is left kind of bummed out — like, is all we have left of the Hutts, Rotta? Are there more? Is the clan gone? Not that I’m cheering for the underworld or anything, but Jabba the Hutt was one of the original bad guys in Star Wars — the original slimeballs, you know — and it feels like killing the twins, who were running the Hutt cartel, and Rotta not wanting to continue it — who does? Are there more Hutts we don’t know about? Is this just one faction? Because I hate to think that, as much as I love Rotta the Hutt joining the New Republic — and that’s so cool and so fun — I’d be really bummed to see the entire hundreds of years of the Hutts having a vice grip on the underworld just gone.
Matthew Yeah, no, I definitely think you’re right. It’s hard to know, because certainly in a lot of the Legends canon they established there were numerous Hutt clans, some of them not on Nal Hutta. They were scattered all over the galaxy. Jabba wasn’t even anywhere close to Nal Hutta — he was on Tatooine. And we’ve certainly seen other Hutt clans in the Clone Wars episodes where we got introduced to Ziro the Hutt and Sy Snoodles, the femme fatale of the Star Wars universe for all time — and there’s this whole ruling council of the Hutts. So I think there have to be other Hutts out there. They wouldn’t just make this race extinct or reduce them to that few. SF Maldwin again points out a slug with a super buff body was a wee bit much. But it was sad when Rotta realized the fans weren’t cheering for him, only for the violence.
Erin That was sad. I’m seeing this movie again tomorrow and I’m very excited to watch it again and see what I catch when we talk about it more in depth. But I did love — little cosplay fact about me: my first original character, and I think my only original character still, is a Twi’lek who works for the Hutt cartel, and I specifically looked up their insignia and painted it onto some of her armor. And Rotta has that tattooed on the back of his neck, and I was just —
Matthew Like, that’s a great story beat. I’d love to know — did he have that done before he went off on his own, or did he have that done as like, I’m my own Hutt, but I’m still a Hutt? Yeah, it’s an interesting story beat that I would love to hear more about.
Erin Totally. And there’s a lot of cool stuff you could do with that character. But it is hard to have a more central character be so alien and inhuman.
Matthew Yeah, exactly. I think that would be interesting — he’s not anthropomorphic and I think that’s kind of the challenge.
Erin And I do wonder — we talked about this because, like Matthew mentioned at the start, we saw this with some fans. Hi Beth and Chad, you guys are the best — they gave me a graduation gift, so cute. But we were talking with them, and Beth said how much she just loves the animation and feels like that’s what really speaks to her. And I think this movie may have worked better in animation, just for the Rotta-the-Hutt stuff. I think that character could have been better received if it wasn’t live action, because it’s harder to figure out — how do we take these Hutts and now give them emotional beats? What are the facial expressions going to be? I feel like it might have been easier to flesh out in animation. But I’m so happy with the movie that we got — like I said a million times, I’m easy to please. If it’s Star Wars, it’s on the screen, I’m hype.
Matthew Yeah, and there’s nothing wrong with that. I have had bad experiences at Star Wars movies. I did not enjoy Attack of the Clones. I did not enjoy Rise of Skywalker. I had a fine time at this one — it just, I think for me, especially because we’ve had so much discussion of what is the New Republic doing during this time? And we were supposed to get a whole movie about a squadron of X-wings — the characters we saw as part of Blue Squadron were maybe going to be a part of that — and we were supposed to get all this different stuff. And we’ve had some build-up through the Mandalorian show of what the Empire was doing, the Imperial remnants, with Moff Gideon taking a lead role. I really want to know: now that Moff Gideon is gone, what is Admiral Coyne up to? So I’m curious if you had the same feeling — like when we got to that point where they brought Admiral Coyne in about halfway through the movie, I really thought the movie was now going to pivot to, okay, we’ve learned what we needed to from Coyne, we’re now going to go off on a mission, and we want you, Mando, to join us. And maybe even Rotta joins as well — it could be Mando’s moment of, yeah, you know what, I want to get more involved with the New Republic, I am one of you. Maybe he’s even kind of being used as a spy or something. He very Han Solos it — only joining the fight at the last minute. Did you have that sense that that might be where the movie was going?
Erin I actually didn’t personally. We’d hit the halfway point and I was like, it’s going to be too complicated to bring up anything related to the Ahsoka show, and I felt like since they hadn’t touched on it more ahead of time, it was unlikely they’d delve into something so big in the second half of a film. But that being said, there’s nothing to say that we’ll get Season 2 of Ahsoka and right when Coyne gets back, Sigourney Weaver pops into Season 2 of Ahsoka and they go — yeah. And then halfway through Season 2 of Ahsoka, Rotta the Hutt joins and Mando joins because they just got back from their adventure on Nal Hutta. There’s nothing to say that this Coyne — not Admiral, I don’t know why I assigned him that — this Coyne…
Matthew There’s nothing wrong with that, but you’re right, I might be wrong about that.
Erin Okay, cool. I don’t know what he used to be, but there’s nothing to say that this isn’t huge for the New Republic in the future. It’s just not the story that was told around these characters.
Matthew Yeah, that’s really true. And as I’ve talked about at length regarding the MCU — I think the movies before Age of Ultron showed the problem when you’re trying to tell a small story but also trying to shove in things to set up the upcoming big movie. And while I think I would have liked to see more of the stuff that’s going to lead us into Ahsoka, I think it also could have really hurt the movie if that felt tacked on.
Erin Yeah, it’s hard with a movie like this to balance the vibes of fan service versus furthering the overall story — for people who just liked the TV show and want to watch them have adventures. Because I think that’s also something the filmmakers were really battling with: these characters are so established in what they do, and this is the vibe we have them in — how would we even introduce them into a bigger picture? Like, where do they stand? What does a three-year-old tiny green alien do within the greater New Republic? Maybe we’ll find that out eventually. But the movie kind of ended and I was like, oh — we actually got nothing. The things we talked about in private. But I was okay with it. I’m always easy to please. I think it was very fun, but it certainly didn’t have the Easter eggs or the sparks we were looking forward to leading into newer projects.
Matthew Yeah, exactly. I would have loved to see that. I would also not have minded a few more — I’m always a little curious about the phrase Easter eggs. I like callbacks. I like things that drop a mention of, hey, this connects to something some of you have seen before. You don’t have to interrupt the plot in a way that everyone else would be confused by. But for example, when Rotta was saved from falling into the water with that huge snake creature — oh my god, this movie really overdid the angry monsters.
Erin It went crazy on the monsters, and I know you don’t love a monster movie.
Matthew I was worried. I don’t love a monster movie, but I especially don’t love a — hey, these are just nonsense animals and we’re just slaughtering them. Like, Grogu killed a mouse and they killed a bird just for a laugh moment. I was like, I don’t need that. But anyway — Rotta has this moment where he’s saved clearly by the Force, and you don’t have to tell the whole story of the movie where he shows up as a little kid, but I wanted some moment of him having a memory of it, or him just being like, oh — you must be a Force user, you’re a Jedi or something. Something to connect that to Ahsoka and Anakin and Yoda, all being there to help rescue him when he was a kid.
Erin Or even just like — oh, what the f*** did you just do, you tiny green little frog? I thought you were a pet.
Matthew Yeah, that’s it — because maybe he was a baby and he just remembers something, you know, you’d just be freaked out by it.
Erin Yeah, there was no recognition. Like, Mando’s like, go — and Rotta and Grogu were like, here we go. And I was like, you’re not going to take a beat to recognize that the tiny guy just saved your life? You’re huge. That didn’t take much effort, relatively.
Matthew He’s got all those abs. They weigh a lot.
Erin All those abs. For anyone wondering, my name today is Rotta the Hutt’s 19th ab, because I stopped counting after 18. I’m kidding — I didn’t count at all.
Matthew I mean, there are many reasons why a person can count. You can be doing it out of curiosity. You can be doing it out of comparative biology. Maybe I’ll count tomorrow. There are caring-about-abs reasons that aren’t thirst. Just wanted to say that. That being said, I am sure that the amount of Rotta-involved fanfics on AO3 is going to go up significantly in the next 72 hours, because some of y’all are just — and you know what, you live your lives. People love a monster. I think he qualifies. God bless. Not my kink, but God bless. So yes — well, what else about this movie kind of tickled you, or made you think?
Erin I need to look into Embo’s dog a little bit, because I think they changed him and that maybe annoyed me a tiny bit. We texted with Alex a little — he didn’t see it with us, but he saw it around the same time — and he said there were some small continuity issues. I wonder if one of them is going to be what I’m thinking about, so we’ll find out when we record together later this week or next week.
Matthew Yeah, I’m sorry folks — it’s 12:30 in the morning. Actually it’s 1:00 in the morning. I’m not doing a deep dive right now, but we absolutely will by the next Wednesday episode. I did think Embo was done well. I thought Garazeb was done fantastically. People know that I really wanted to see him — but also was nervous about it, and I was a bit bummed by how he was handled in Ahsoka. I think they really figured him out here and I really appreciated that. I think he was in Ahsoka for like half a scene, or you heard something like that.
Erin Maybe we heard his voice in Ahsoka, but I don’t think we had seen him in live action until this movie.
Matthew I thought we saw him in live action in something, but either way —
Erin Oh, it was the last episode of the newest season of The Mandalorian, right — when he’s talking with that one new — oh yeah, yeah, he’s in the background at the bar.
Matthew Yeah, at the bar. So him being part of this — and we saw Carson again, which was kind of fun. I wish Garazeb had played a bigger part in this movie. And in some ways that’s part of what made it feel so episodic to me — it felt like there was the Rotta episode and then there was the Garazeb episode. Neither Garazeb nor Rotta was a through line throughout the movie. Rotta came in at the beginning and at the end; Garazeb came in mostly at the beginning. That’s part of why it felt a little all over the place.
Erin Yeah. I just looked up my little thing about Embo’s dog and I was wrong. So it’s okay.
Matthew Okay. SF Maldwin again — like I said, folks, tune in, we try to have a pretty regular schedule; this is not a regular schedule, but I try to announce it. SF Maldwin writes: I was waiting for Rotta to say the Godfather III line — “just when you think they’re out, they pull you back in.” I noticed a lot of references to mob movies. There definitely were. Someone noticed that when the main enforcer for Coyne — I think he was an Ixorian, who had the downward-facing horns — when he grabs the machine gun laser and just starts spraying it, it definitely seemed — actually, Beth, one of the people we saw the movie with, pointed out that felt like a Scarface reference. I was definitely digging some of the mob vibes, and it made me want to go back and play more of the Star Wars underworld games. That’s a really fun game.
Erin It’s not Ixorian though — I looked it up. But we’ll find out soon.
Matthew Fair enough. I’m sure there are many races with the horns facing down like that. That’s just a fighting feature. So yeah — and I know, the Anzellans. I had to have you tell me that earlier. There were just a lot of funny moments like that. I thought Grogu was charming as always. It was fun to see him learn.
Yeah, nothing bad. I didn’t have a bad time. I wanted it to be a lot more. I’m left feeling like I don’t know why they made this movie. And I think if people love Pedro Pascal —
Erin I did love that little scene after Mando gets kidnapped and Grogu’s like, okay, it’s go time, and he like straps his armor on and throws some bombs in his bag. I was like, oh god, a toddler grabbing bombs. This is not going to go well.
Matthew Yeah. And then Mando had his putting-on-all-the-armor-in-the-gunrunner’s-ship moment. I’m going to say more about the gunrunner’s ship when we have Alex there, because there was something I thought was going to happen that didn’t happen. But I remember you kind of laughed next to me — it had this weird needle drop of like the badass action movie sound, but it was kind of the Mandalorian theme as Mando was strapping on all the guns and finding the disintegration gun again.
Erin I will say, I loved the music in this film.
Matthew Yeah, beautifully done. They found a really interesting way to take that Mandalorian theme and put it into like five different musical genres.
Erin Yeah, how to mix it in and keep that vibe but still create new music. Composers blow my mind. They always will. I don’t understand how you can create music that’s never been heard before, but they do and it’s amazing.
Matthew So yeah, shout out. I know John Williams did not do this one. I think this might have been the first Star Wars movie without him. He did the Mandalorian, right?
Erin Yeah, that’s right.
Matthew Someone who’s been involved with Star Wars before.
Erin Ludovic Goransson. He did all the music for the Mandalorian TV show and he’s done some other really cool projects outside of Star Wars.
Matthew Yeah, so John Williams did all of the main movies, and the last one he did was Rise of Skywalker. But I think Solo came after The Last Jedi?
Erin No, Solo came after The Last Jedi, okay. Yeah, so this was then the first movie that John Williams did not do the score for.
Yes. And Ludwig Goransson has done Sinners, Oppenheimer, Wakanda Forever, Creed II, Venom, Black Panther — very, very talented composer.
Matthew Yeah, as you can tell he loves working with Ryan Coogler, among other things. And the music for Sinners is just phenomenal.
All right, I think that’s about all we’re going to talk about tonight. We’re going to talk a lot more in depth with Alex and get into a lot more of the deep dives. You can send us questions about what you think. Erin, any last things you want to point out or quote or bring up?
Erin Just my ending quote.
Matthew Sounds good. Alright. I will just say thank you all so much for tuning in. I also did an episode of The Film Board, which is another one of the podcasts on the TruStory FM family of podcasts. Please check that out. Please check out all the other things happening on the Superhero Ethics podcast and all the other great things. Please check out Erin’s cosplay and all those links through the show notes. And most importantly — may the Force be with you.
